AbleSet 3.0.0-beta.2

Beta
1
  • Added visible fades to the mixer faders when fadeIn and fadeOut OSC commands are run
  • Fixed unauthenticated users being able to access the canvas editor
  • Fixed Canvas and OSC settings pages not loading as expected in some cases
  • Fixed log packages not containing AbleSet and Ableton logs

You can download this beta here:
Mac: https://ableset.app/download/mac/3.0.0-beta.2
Mac (ARM): https://ableset.app/download/mac-arm64/3.0.0-beta.2
Win: https://ableset.app/download/win/3.0.0-beta.2

3 Likes
2

Hi Leo,

I was playing around with the mixer and noticed that if I change the level in Ableton, it will offset the position of the fader in the mixer in Ableset. So 0 will now be below or above the rest of the mixer, etc.

I was mostly just playing around to see what would happen and in a live setting I donā€™t think I would ever go into ableton to adjust the fader and would instead just use Ableset but just wanted to bring this to your attention in case itā€™s a bug. Thanks again for all the great work!

3

Hey @iamderkis, thank you for reporting this! Could you upload a screen recording of this behavior so I can check if I can reproduce it on my end and look for a fix?

Iā€™m looking forward to your reply! :slight_smile:

4

Absolutely! Ill send something either Monday evening or Tuesday. Thank you!

5

Okay so I believe I have found what is causing the issue.

I have multiple tracks that are set to the same ā€œG:ā€ i.e. ā€œG:Click, G:Acoustic, etc.ā€

The issue came from turning down the ā€œClickā€ fader in ablesetā€™s mixer and then double tapping on one of the ā€œClickā€ tracks to bring it back to 0. This only brought the one ā€œClickā€ group back to 0 and the other is still at -inf. It makes sense that it would happen this way, so my solution for this is to only touch the mixer in Ableset and that makes this no issue as far as I can tell because it is turning all of the tracks that share a name at the same time and then turns them back up at the same time. Ableset does recognize when I adjust the fader using Ableton but since there are multiple tracks that share the same name, it doesnā€™t adjust the other track while Iā€™m adjusting in Ableton. It is correctable I found. If I go to Ableton and manually set the multiple tracks back to the same level, it went back to functioning correctly.

I hope this makes sense!

1 Like
6

This is INSANE Leo!!
Iā€™m loving it already, hoping to use it live this Sunday and see how we go. I love the idea of multiple types of canvases.
Am I right in saying that you can choose which canvas to use per device?

I was also wondering if thereā€™s a way I can set up some similar buttons like fade in and fade out, but with different parameters.
For instance what Iā€™ve got are these ā€œsoftenā€ clips that I trigger from session view, that filter out the track a bit and add a bunch of reverb to use as a transitional tool or a musical way to jump somewhere completely different in the song.
Iā€™d love to be able to trigger these from a button in Ableset now that youā€™ve added all these other incredible features.
I guess my main question is, is this possible currently? Iā€™ve been looking into OSC, but Iā€™m not familiar with it enough to be getting anywhere at the moment, though I have been trying haha

1 Like
7

One suggestion I have for the mixer, which is not dissimilar to what others are discussing here Iā€™ve noticed, is that if I double click the ā€˜dotā€™ representing the level on the channel, it would be nice to reset that to the ā€˜defaultā€™ +0dB position, if that makes sense.

Not unlike how double clicking works for most fields on Ableton, or some mixing software.

3 Likes
8

Hello Leo

First of all I want to thank you for creating such an amazing tool that helps not only me but Iā€™m sure a lot of people everyday I keep finding new ways to use it , its been amazing .

I want to mention some of my feedback :

  1. I donā€™t know if this is possible or not but it would be ideal (maybe) to make like a quick access to the different sections like : canvas , mixer , performance , settings , for example say Iā€™m in the performance section and I quickly want to go to the mixer or change something in the main settings I have to close the performance and then find my way to the mixer or whatever which I know it takes 2 clicks or such but in my case as a musician who also MD and run the tracks it would be helpful to have that quick access to the different areas of the ablest . Maybe this is a function on the ā€œCanvasā€ that I have not seen if so please ignore .

  2. Mixer : works great and does what it promises , there were times that the level bar was not showing or reflection the volume something to consider. ALSO like I said I donā€™t know if this is something you can do yet but it would be ideal to be able to move the different faders around the mixer , sometimes I would ending with click and guide in the far end of the faders with the master , instruments and such in the middle .

It would be such a good addition also to put the db levels or maybe just the lines of the volume to know which place of the fader its 0 that would help a lot at least for me.

I loved how I just type ā€œCLICKā€ and automatically adds it to the mixer , it would be cool to have the same feature for the ā€œGUIDEā€.

This is it for me so far , I love ableset and its the best purchase I have done and I love how it keeps getting better and better , thank you for also create this space .

1 Like
9

Few more bits of feedback from me:

  1. The ā€˜GOā€™ button on canvas doesnā€™t appear to exit the LOOPFULL section I made. - EDIT: Strike that, I canā€™t replicate this so maybe itā€™s user error.
  2. ā€˜Remaining time in setā€™ element does ā€˜remaining time in songā€™ and needs to be changed to ā€˜remainingTimeInSetā€™ in the template.
  3. Youā€™re probably aware but the Record and Loop descriptions on canvas are incorrect, they both say the button ā€˜starts or stops playbackā€™. ā€˜Next song titleā€™ is also incorrect.
10

Sorry, hope you donā€™t mind but Iā€™m just going to keep posting feedback as it comesā€¦ seeing a potential issue with the canvas Play/Stop button on a tablet device here. Pressing the button quickly (or rather, not slowly) causes it to fire twice - which means if a song is playing, it will stop and then re-start the song from the beginning in quick succession. Iā€™ve uploaded a video to my Drive folder showing the behaviour. I filmed my tablet but the same behaviour occurs on my phone.

1 Like
11

Iā€™m really into this Canvas feature, and I think it got so much potential. As I playing around with it, I think to be able to add the new Mixer feature (selected groups) & Visual Metronome in Canvas mode could make even better. Thanks

3 Likes
12

I have the same problem as you.

13

Hey @iamderkis,

Thank you for elaborating on this issue!

This is expected behavior ā€“ AbleSet always keeps the relative volume of tracks within a track group the same and scales the volume slider in a way that if itā€™s all the way at the top, all tracks are at +6 dB and if itā€™s all the way at the bottom, all tracks are at -Inf dB.

This way, you can make a track within the group louder or quieter in Live and still use AbleSetā€™s volume sliders without this change being lost.

1 Like
14

Hey @Adam_Molinaro,

Iā€™m glad you like the new features! Regarding your questions:

Yes! Each device can choose which canvas should be displayed, so you can create different canvases for each device if you like.

For your use case, you might find AbletonOSC interesting. This is a Control Surface script that you can install into Ableton Live and which allows you to control all kinds of parameters via OSC.

For example, to trigger the first clip on the first track youā€™d send the following OSC command to AbletonOSC: 127.0.0.1:11000/live/clip/fire 0 0 with the first number being the position of the track and the second number being the position of the clip youā€™d like to trigger. Both values start at 0.

Let me know if this works for you! :slight_smile:

15

Hey @LewisDavie, thatā€™s a great idea! Iā€™ve implemented it and will release it with the next beta :slight_smile:

1 Like
16

Good points! Iā€™ve fixed the issues you mentioned and will release the fixes with the next beta :slight_smile:

17

@LewisDavie thanks for pointing this out! Iā€™ve managed to reproduce this issue on my end and will publish a fix with the next beta :slight_smile:

1 Like
18

Great idea! Iā€™ve added it to my todo list and will work on it soon :slight_smile:

1 Like
19

At the risk of there being too many buttons in Performance view, I think it would be great to see the Go button along the bottom panel there. Granted you can add it to the Canvas, but the Performance view is so solid that if the Go button was there too, I imagine a lot of people wouldnā€™t need to tinker or create custom views.

The way Iā€™d imagine it working is that the Go button would quickly highlight green to register a press, then darken again, but if for example the button was used to hit ā€˜Playā€™, the Play button would stay highlighted. Hopefully that makes sense.

A shortcut would also be great as I see this as being quite an important button. Perhaps the Enter key?

20

Hey Leo, I really like how youā€™ve implemented the mixer! Will that be compatible to map with a midi controller? And also, I think it would be nice to add the mixer as part of the canvas options. And my last question, have you ever though of making ableset compatible with session view?