Ableset jumping back to the first song in the setlist during playback

Hi! We have been using ablest for the past few months and have been really liking it. Recently, there have been a few times where while another song is playing the playhead will jump back to the first song in the setlist. I’ve looked all over the forums and tried to inspect the logs myself and it seems to be that ablset thinks it has reached the end of the song even though there is no end of song marker or break in the Sections track. (Timestamp right around 2025-08-26T22:22:34.845Z)

I’m hoping I have just missed something and its an easy fix.

Thanks!

  • **OS and Version: MacOS 15.6.1
  • **Version of AbleSet: 2.7.5
  • **Version of Ableton Live: 12.2.2

Quick update on this, I have run this particular transition between songs about 50 times and this jump to the beginning of the setlist thing has happened twice in those 50 runs. Both times there is a log message “Time in song is below 0”

If anyone has any advice on what to do to avoid this it would be much appreciated. Thanks!

Hey @Braedenmccann, thank you for reporting this issue! I have a hunch about what might be causing this and will try to reproduce the issue on my end.

To help with troubleshooting, could you email or upload your project file and let me know which song this happens with? Just the .als file should suffice for this.

My hunch is that this is caused by an inconsistency with the Max for Live device. Interestingly, the playhead position reported by Max for Live isn’t always 100% accurate and can deviate from the actual playhead position by around 0.0002 beats. I’m already trying to mitigate this by adding safety margins, but it seems this isn’t working right in some cases.

To confirm my suspicion, could you try removing all instances of the AbleSet Max for Live device from your project and running the song transition a few times again?

I’m looking forward to your reply!

I will try this and get back to you. The full ableset log
Package with the ALS session is already in your support inbox.

What I have done to get it to behave more reliably for the last few shows is to load the first few bars of all clips after the jump into ram. There seems to be a disk access issue with the 2500 bar jump at that point in the setlist. After that change I was able to run that transition upwards of 50 times without any jumps back to the top of the setlist.

I’ll let you know if removing the M4L device changes anything.
Thanks!

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Hey @Braedenmccann, it seems like the .als file didn’t make it into the log package, unfortunately. Could you send it to me separately? :slight_smile:

It has been sent. Sorry about that.

The transition in question is from rise up to let the church sing. This session does have the first clips of let the church sing loaded into ram but that probably won’t matter to you as you don’t have the samples.

Thanks!

Im using the trial and mine is doing the same thing. It only does it on songs that are NOT marked as autostop.

Windows 11
AbleSet Trial 2.7.5
Abelton Live 12.1.10